GdS: "Il legale di Ronaldo va dalla polizia: «Sono soddisfatto di ciò che ho visto». A Las Vegas Christiansen ha visionato le prove del presunto stupro"
gabe02 ha risposto a phoenix Discussione Juventus forumPenso che bisogna discriminare le due cose: da una parte esiste un causa civile, il cui iter è stato avviato dalla Mayorga tramite i suoi avvocati, dall'altra un'inchiesta da parte della polizia che potrebbe sfociare in una causa penale. Normalmente una causa civile USA ha una soglia di colpevolezza più bassa e determina sanzioni amministrative. Gli avvocati che prendono questi casi lo fanno senza prendere soldi in anticipo ma si fanno pagare con una percentuale di quella che è la sanzione stabilita a favore della vittima (30-40%) se perdono essenzialmente ci rimettono il tempo speso. La causa penale è invece intentata dalla magistratura e finanziata dallo stato. Normalmente l'evidenza raccolta viene presentata ad un procuratore distrettuale il quale decide se portarla davanti ad un giudice al quale spetta l'ultima parola. Ovviamente gli avvocati della mayorga hanno tutto l'interesse affinchè ci sia una causa penale, poichè ciò faciliterebbe non poco il loro compito in sede civile.
gabe02 ha risposto a gabe02 Discussione Juventus forumDa autore del topic ci tenevo a fare un paio di punti: Sulla Lingua: Mi scuso con quanti sono rimasti male dalla mancata disponibilità di una traduzione immediata o quantomeno di un sunto in Italiano all'articolo postato. Come dicono gli americani: lesson learned (lezione imparata)... la prossima volta non mancherò. In aggiunta ringrazio la persona che ha comunque prontamente provveduto a postare una traduzione dell'articolo e del titolo del post. Sull'articolo in se: penso che la chiave di lettura non sia nell'aspetto tecnico quanto nella parte emotiva che suscita il nostro modo di giocare (in particolare modo dei nostri baluardi difensivi). Gli americani sono in generale molto affascinati dall'aspetto "guerriero" dello sport, dalla battaglia dell'individuo e della squadra non solo nel contesto della partita ma con parallelismi alla vita in generale. Logicamente Chiellini, Barzagli e Buffon esemplificano questo piu' di qualsiasi altro giocatore che mi possa venire in mente, sicuramente per via dell'età, della grinta dell'intelligenza (sportiva e non) e del loro modo di essere. In generale, vista la povertà del panorama giornalistico italiano, mi piace cercare notizie e commenti in bianconero nel resto del mondo, devo dire che negli ultimi anni il nostro appeal risulta in costante evoluzione... proprio stamattina stavo cercando su espn (primo sito di info sportiva USA) nella sezione calcio e ho notato l'assenza della serie A dalle leghe calcio... nei top team pero'... e unica rappresentante del calcio Italiano... ci siamo... allego screen (traduzione penso non necessaria)
gabe02 ha aggiunto una discussione in Juventus forumVolevo condividere questo splendido articolo del Ny Times sulla partita di ieri sera. Enjoy... In Stopping Tottenham, Juventus Holds Back Time With a Smile On Soccer By RORY SMITH MARCH 7, 2018 LONDON — In those last few minutes on Wednesday, as Tottenham Hotspur threw all it had at Juventus in one last, desperate attempt to remain in the Champions League, something came over the gnarled veterans at the heart of Juventus’s defense. Gianluigi Buffon, Andrea Barzagli and Giorgio Chiellini should have been furrowing their brows, gritting their teeth, clinging by their fingernails. In the far corner of Wembley Stadium, their visiting fans were singing and bouncing, nervously, as if to distract themselves from the overwhelming tension. Tottenham, after all, possesses one of the English Premier League’s best attacking units: the power of Harry Kane, the wit of Heung-Min Son and Christian Eriksen, the menace of Dele Alli. With his team down by 2-1 at Wembley, behind by 4-3 on aggregate, Mauricio Pochettino, Tottenham’s coach, had sent Erik Lamela and Fernando Llorente into the mix, too. There was nothing left to lose. And so Tottenham hurled wave after wave of attack at Juventus. For 165 of the 180 minutes of this round of 16 tie, Tottenham had seemed faster, fitter, sharper and stronger. Its energy and its dynamism had made Juventus — apparently ageless for so long — look suddenly old. Son had tormented Barzagli to such an extent that the defender had resorted to some of the darker arts to try to quiet him. Kane dared to stand up to Chiellini, and seemed to have the better of him. Alli roamed freely in the space their battle vacated. Two quick goals from Paulo Dybala and Gonzalo Higuaín had put Juventus ahead, but this felt like the time when Tottenham’s youthful vibrancy would be vindicated: When the legs were tired and the minds drained, Juventus would surely break. Spurs would score, extra time would ensue, and the young would vanquish the old. And yet, at that moment, when the suffering should have been greatest, it looked — somehow — an awful lot like Juventus was enjoying itself. Chiellini and Barzagli, backed into a corner and straining every sinew, seemed to be having fun. “That is the kind of players they are,” their coach, Massimiliano Allegri, said after his team had held off Tottenham for the 2-1 victory. “The problem is that Chiellini is 34 and Barzagli is 37. That is difficult for us.” In the first leg of this tie three weeks ago, Juventus allowed Tottenham off the ropes in Turin. The Italians scored twice in the first 10 minutes, missed a penalty, and then ended up tying, 2-2. It was heralded as conclusive proof that this team was locked into an unavoidable decline. The supporting evidence was compelling. Leonardo Bonucci, the most elegant member of its fabled defensive line, had left for A.C. Milan last summer, after a second defeat in three years in the Champions League final. In November, Buffon and Chiellini were unable to help Italy qualify for the World Cup finals. For the first time, almost, in living memory, Juventus was not unquestionably the best team in Italy’s Serie A: It was being seriously challenged by Napoli, playing the sort of swashbuckling soccer that seemed completely beyond Allegri’s team and doing it so well that it seemed destined to win its first title in 30 years. Time seemed to be catching up with Juventus, at last. That it was unable to keep up with Pochettino’s intense Tottenham team in Turin simply exposed that to a wider audience. For an hour or so at Wembley, the same message was reinforced. Tottenham created a raft of chances, finally scoring one through Son, and Juventus looked, well, shot. Dybala and Douglas Costa provided some reason for optimism, but those moments were relatively rare. Even the vast bank of Juventus fans who had traveled to London seemed peculiarly quiet. This club’s mythology centers on its ability to win from almost any position — fino alla fine, as its motto goes, “until the end” — but even its fans seemed to have accepted that this was a step too far. All of those worries remain true, of course. Juventus is not quite what it was; it is not as strong a team as last year, or as strong a team as in 2015, when it lost to Barcelona in the Champions League final. Buffon, Barzagli and Chiellini are not immortal. Their sheen will fade with time. Underneath it, though, they have not changed. Beneath the mottled surface, they are still iron, and it is that which carried them through: their refusal to wilt; the wisdom that is measured in battle scars; and, yes, their relish for the fight. It was there when Chiellini made a last-ditch challenge, and Buffon grabbed him by the scruff of his neck in sheer, screaming delight. It was there when Barzagli beat Lamela to the ball as it bounced along the goal-line in the final minute, and thundered it high into the sky. It was there when Buffon fell on a cross, right at the last, and Chiellini pummeled him with punches in celebration. They are not just good at this, not just at home when they are doing it. They are having fun, too. Whether it is enough to erase the pain of last year, when Juventus lost in the final to Real Madrid, compacting what increasingly looks like a curse in this competition, is hard to say. Manchester City, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid would all believe they can beat Juventus, which has lost seven European Cup finals. A level below, Liverpool and Manchester United would not necessarily be filled with fear, either. They would feel that this is an aging side, one a little past its best, one in need of rejuvenation. And they would feel all that with some justification. Juventus is not what it was. But what it is should not be underestimated. Wizened and grizzled, tough and smart, not just ready for battle but positively looking forward to it. It is one thing to endure an onslaught and come through unscathed. It is quite another to smile as the blows rain down. It is how Juventus reacts when it is threatened that makes it so dangerous. In those last few minutes, its players would have been forgiven for feeling that the clock was standing still, for wishing that it would move just a little faster. They did not give that impression, though. They looked, instead, like a team that always has time on its side.